Gemma3 is out
Gemma3 was released today. With 1B, 4B, 12B, 27B model.
According to Gemini 2.0, it can handle autocompletion. I'll test it out.
Testing 1B for autocompletion
Gemma is a model that can be used as a model
huh ?
sorry, what ?
It seems that it can't really handle autocompletion, or the problem is elsewhere (continue dev instruction ?)
In LM Studio chat i get some proper result, and at 66 tok/s on my macbook air M3
He's wrong though. But at least it's not to the level of autocompletion crap.
Testing 4B
I'll start with chat in LM Studio first.
Okay, let's break down the question of enabling or disabling speculative decoding with reasoning models. It’s a nuanced topic and the best answer depends on several factors. Here's a detailed breakdown:
What is Speculative Decoding?
Speculative decoding (also known as "ahead-of-time" decoding) is a technique used by large language models (LLMs) like GPT-4, Claude, etc., to speed up generation. Instead of waiting for each token to be fully decoded and validated, the model guesses what the next token might be based on its current understanding of the context. It then starts generating that predicted token before it's actually confirmed. If the prediction is correct, great! If not, the model quickly reverts to the previously verified output.
Arguments for Enabling Speculative Decoding (Generally Recommended):
Significant Speed Improvements: This is the biggest benefit. Speculative decoding can dramatically reduce latency – the time it takes for a response to appear. It's often cited as being 2x-4x faster than standard, non-speculative decoding.
Improved Throughput: Because responses are generated more quickly, you can handle more requests per unit of time.
Better User Experience: Faster responses lead to a smoother and more responsive user experience, especially in interactive applications like chatbots.
Arguments for Disabling Speculative Decoding (Situations Where It Can Be Problematic):
Increased Hallucinations/Incorrect Outputs: This is the primary concern with speculative decoding. Because the model is making guesses before validation, it's more likely to confidently output incorrect or nonsensical information – what we call "hallucinations." The speculation introduces a higher probability of generating something that seems plausible but isn’t true.
Reduced Accuracy in Certain Tasks: For tasks requiring high precision and factual accuracy (e.g., complex mathematical reasoning, legal analysis, scientific research), speculative decoding can significantly degrade performance. The added risk outweighs the speed benefit.
Increased Resource Consumption (Potentially): While speculative decoding can be more efficient overall due to reduced waiting times, it can also lead to increased computational load if the model is constantly generating and discarding incorrect predictions. This depends on the specific implementation.
Recommendations Based on Reasoning Model Use Cases:
Here's a breakdown of when you should consider enabling or disabling speculative decoding:
Creative Writing/Brainstorming/Casual Conversation (High Priority - Enable):
Why: Speed is paramount here. The occasional hallucination isn’t as critical if the model is generating ideas quickly and efficiently. The user can usually spot inaccuracies and correct them.
Example: Using an LLM to help you write a story, generate marketing slogans, or have a casual chat.
Code Generation (Medium Priority - Enable with Caution):
Why: Code generation benefits from speed, but accuracy is crucial. You'll likely want to monitor the output closely and test it thoroughly.
Recommendation: Start with speculative decoding enabled, but carefully review all generated code for errors before using it.
Fact Retrieval/Question Answering (Low Priority - Disable or Carefully Monitor):
Why: Accuracy is absolutely critical. Speculative decoding significantly increases the risk of providing incorrect information, which can be very problematic in this context.
Recommendation: Generally, disable speculative decoding for question-answering applications where factual correctness is paramount. If you enable it, implement robust verification mechanisms (e.g., cross-referencing with trusted sources).
Complex Reasoning/Mathematical Problems (Disable - Highly Recommended):
Why: These tasks require precise logical steps and accurate calculations. Speculative decoding will almost certainly lead to incorrect results.
Recommendation: Disable speculative decoding entirely for complex reasoning problems.
How to Manage Speculative Decoding Effectively:
Start with Enabling: Begin by enabling speculative decoding and observe the performance.
Monitor Output Carefully: Implement a system for tracking the accuracy of the model's output, especially in critical applications.
Adjust Confidence Thresholds (If Available): Some models allow you to adjust the confidence threshold used for speculative predictions. Lowering this threshold increases speed but also increases the risk of hallucinations.
Use Verification Layers: Combine speculative decoding with verification layers that check the generated output against a knowledge base or other trusted sources.
Resources for Further Learning:
OpenAI's Blog on Speculative Decoding: https://openai.com/blog/speculative-decoding
Research Papers: Search Google Scholar for "speculative decoding large language models" to find the latest research in this area.
To give you more tailored advice, could you tell me:
What kind of reasoning model are you using? (e.g., GPT-4, Claude 3, Llama 2, etc.)
What is the primary use case for the model? (e.g., chatbot, code generation, document summarization, question answering, creative writing)
The result looks correct to me. And 28 tok/s.
Testing with autocompletion
I just realized that when i test 1B, i had a 0.9 temperature. I'll have to test 1B again.
Anyway, testing 4B autocompletion. Is it better ? I'll set the temp to 0.1
topics/Gemma3-is-out.md
Resources for Further Learning:
OpenAI's Blog on Speculative Decoding: https://openai.com/blog/speculative-decoding
Research Papers: Search Google Scholar for "speculative decoding large language models" to find the latest research in this area.
To give you more tailored advice, could you tell me:
What kind of reasoning model are you using? (e.g., GPT-4, Claude 3, Llama 2, etc.)
What is the primary use case for the model? (e.g., chatbot, code generation, document summarization, question answering, creative writing)
... Why ?
I'm trying to understand how speculative decoding can improve the performance of large language models. I'm particularly interested in learning more about how it works and what factors influence its effectiveness. I'd like to explore different approaches to speculative decoding, such as using multiple models or varying the confidence thresholds.
Nah there is something wrong. I blame the interaction between Continue and LM Studio here.
What about chat ?
Yeah... some weirdness here. I'll postpone the test and playing with gemma3 directly in LM Studio.